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Its lights are now strobing like crazy. It is coming back.

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For more than five decades, UFOs have had some type of connection to the military.

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I noticed a strange light up there that was really, really bright.

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We heard helicopters coming. As you can hear them getting closer, it just disappeared.

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Is the military in pursuit of UFOs or attempting to bring them down?

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These people are endangered and the government's doing nothing to protect them.

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Possible proof of this first response in an amazing video.

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This looks like something from out of a science fiction movie.

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My wife witnessed two black twin rotor helicopters circling our home.

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And we're looking for something.

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Within 24 hours, another object is seen being chased by a formation of fighter jets.

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There's four to six jets there, tween a mile to two miles behind it.

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Trying to catch up to them.

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Could these cases be evidence of the military's first response to a UFO?

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This is four times the size of a stealth bomber. That is absolutely huge.

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This is Geeks number 65306, first response.

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Geeks

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Guys, we are investigating this mystery, the rationale behind the military's confrontation with UFOs.

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Are they simply going out to investigate or are they actively going out to confront these craft

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and if possible shoot them down?

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If extraterrestrials really are visiting us, they would have to intercept.

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The first response of our government and military is to protect us from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

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This includes unconventional aircraft coming into our airspace.

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When we investigate UFO dogfights, we know that we talked to Chuck Soros of Edwards Air Force Base.

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He was air traffic control and he told us that they scrambled an F-106 to investigate.

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Pilots like General Parvis Jafari over at Tehran in 1976, when there was a huge UFO sighted,

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he was scrambled in his F-4 Phantom to intercept.

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A lot of this began all the way back in 1952.

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In 1952 there were multiple encounters in what can only be described as an air war between the military and UFOs.

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And to this day, these events remain unexplained.

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Isn't there even a possibility that what we're looking at is simply an escort of the military of one of their own top secret black ops programs?

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Bill and Pat seem to believe that the military is engaging and fighting with the UFOs in our skies.

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But I think the reality is that this military presence is simply an escort for the UFO,

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which just happens to be a top secret military aircraft.

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What I think we're after is that small percentage where the Air Force or the military is actually after the UFOs is a military encounter.

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In Long Beach we just had a recent sighting in which according to this one report,

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there was an object in the sky, nobody knew what it was, and suddenly a bunch of helicopters descended on the object and the object disappeared.

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Why hasn't there been any resolution to this and it's still going on today?

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We're heading out to Long Beach, California where on March 17th 2009,

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witnesses saw a UFO in the skies that was shortly followed by a squadron of military helicopters.

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According to eyewitness Patricia Davila, they were there.

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We don't know what their intention was, but we're going to talk to Patricia to find out if the helicopters were there to observe the object,

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to escort the object, to intercept the object, or to shoot it down.

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Hi Patricia, how are you? Thanks for seeing us.

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On March 17th 2009, we saw a UFO, 10 helicopters pull up on the scene at least.

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They looked like they were looking for something, like they knew it was there, but they couldn't find it because it didn't shut all its lights off.

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We came out here and set up the tripod because the space shuttle was supposed to be showing itself,

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and I noticed often to the south that there was something amiss.

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There was a strange light up there that was really really bright.

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Patricia Davila has lived in the Long Beach, California area for more than 20 years.

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She went through training at a police academy, and has been trained by military special ops and other law enforcement officers to help in her own business in the entertainment industry.

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With such an extensive background, Patricia knows her military aircraft and feels she can readily identify any conventional craft in the sky.

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At first it looked round, and then it seemed to change to into a disc shape, and then it kind of disappeared, and then it looked like there were two objects up there.

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And then they both kind of mimicked each other and meshed back into one.

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We heard helicopters coming. We could hear them from both directions.

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Now, did the helicopters arrive while the object was still there or had it vanished?

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You could hear them while it was still there. As you could hear them getting closer, it just disappeared.

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So what do you think was going on that night?

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I think they were looking for it. I've never seen that many helicopters ever in Long Beach, not at one place.

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There were two that came off from here, there were six that came from here, there were two that came back from here, and then we lost count.

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We saw over 10 helicopters come out here. It was either the military and or the local police department.

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Patricia has good reason to believe these helicopters were police and military.

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Her house is nearly surrounded by military installations and commercial airports.

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Luckily for us, during this unexplained event, she used a digital camera and a tripod to capture multiple photographs of the UFO.

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So can we see the photos? Absolutely, follow me.

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Follow you.

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Now, is this afternoon flattened out to that disk shape?

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That's not what you saw with your naked eye.

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I took it in 8-Sonic intervals because I wasn't sure whether or not the night shots on my camera would actually shoot what I was seeing.

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Patricia used an 8-second exposure on the camera, which means that the shutter was open for 8 seconds and captured the movement of the object.

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This photographic technique offers some very bizarre looking images that can result in strobing effects or streaks through the night sky.

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How can we know that this isn't just the result of having slow shutter speed?

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Because they took a couple of photos at a 30th of a second that show the two spheres together.

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Do you believe photos are the helicopters?

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Yes, they do.

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These look very different from the lights in the other photo.

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We don't know what this object is, but looking at the photographs of the UFO and the helicopters, they look nothing alike.

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There were two coming from Los Alamedos training center area.

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There were six coming from this direction from Long Beach, and then there were another two coming from the airport.

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Patricia Davila's house is located among the Los Alamedos Armed Forces Reserve Center, the Naval Weapons Testing Center in Seal Beach, and a naval base in Long Beach.

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It's very possible that the helicopters could have come from any one of these installations.

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Are you sure they were all working together?

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Yes, they were. They were coming towards this craft trying to corner it or something.

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One theory is that the helicopters were part of an escort.

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Another theory is that these helicopters were investigating this UFO, possibly even attacking it.

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The third possibility is that there was a search party that night going on over Long Beach, California, and this UFO was simply the first on the scene,

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misinterpreted as some sort of unconventional craft.

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Were there any other people seeing this?

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I sent my kids out to knock on every neighbor's door that they could get their hands on, and they did, and they got my neighbor, Laura.

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It's becoming clear that she was not the only witness to this sighting.

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One person who corroborated the entire story is Laura Pantor, who saw the object and saw the helicopters.

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On March 17, 2009, I witnessed military aircraft converge on a UFO.

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And it was right before eight o'clock, right above the telephone pole lines, was a glowing ball of white light hovering.

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We watched it for about five minutes, and then it just started drifting southwest.

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All of a sudden it just disappeared, and we had heard helicopters coming.

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While Laura is telling us corroborates Patricia's statement that it wasn't until this group of helicopters arrived that the mysterious object disappeared.

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45 minutes to an hour after the light went out, there was three groups of helicopters.

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I think they were mixed with police and military, and the police ones had their search lights on.

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They weren't really searching on the ground. They were searching for something in the sky.

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They didn't know what they were looking for, and they were literally playing this mouse game, and no one knew where the mouse was.

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We know that the object winked out, dematerialized, disappeared, even before the helicopters came here.

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And we know the helicopter was spent in an ordinate amount of time in some kind of frenzied search pattern.

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If it's ours, why would military helicopters be after one of their own? Everything is wrong about this.

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We live under the flight path for Long Beach Airport, and the airliners come this way in their landing direction.

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And in this case, the traffic was diverted for about 45 minutes, and I've lived here almost 10 years. I've never seen traffic diverted.

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This isn't just about the UFO sighting. We also learned that there was unusual military activity in the air,

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and that air traffic in the Long Beach Airport was completely rerouted from its normal path all the way around this way.

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So this is very unusual activity.

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After our investigation of the Long Beach sighting, we've learned of another event in Corona, California that same evening.

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So we're heading to Corona, about 50 miles away from Patricia's house, to meet with eyewitness Mike, who wants his identity completely anonymous.

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In March 2009, I witnessed two different sightings of UFO,

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shortly after my wife observed two large, black, twin rotor helicopters circling our home.

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What do you think you saw that night?

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I don't know. I can't explain it. It's changed my whole life.

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We're here meeting with Mike, not his real name, who on March 17th, 2009, shot some very interesting video of what he says is a UFO.

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Apparently the military thought it was interesting also, because they surveilled this house after that date. We're really anxious to see this video.

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This is into the tape a little bit, and that, I believe, is a star that you're seeing it go by.

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I mean, this looks like something from out of a science fiction movie.

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It does, so...

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You have the star as a frame of reference in the background, and this thing is just cruising around, like on a joyride.

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This is the most impressive video footage that I've ever seen of a UFO.

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And if this is real, this is literally rocking my skepticism.

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And there's something in the sky, and it's flying, and it's not a conventional craft, that's for sure.

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What exactly this is, I don't know yet, but I'm a little shaken.

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So what movement did you actually see with your own eyes?

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It was darting back and forth.

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At times it was going up and down, and it actually dropped a few times from a very high altitude to the ground.

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It went behind the homes, and then reappeared at the same height it was.

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You want the smoking gun? Is that the smoking gun?

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Well, this is definitely a UFO. I honestly can't decide whether it's extraterrestrial or military.

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And even the flight pattern of this, it just kind of drifts to the left, drifts to the right.

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Exactly.

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It kind of hovers, it has the same type of movement as a long beach craft.

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We're investigating the military's first response to UFO activity.

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We're in Coronic, California, where on March 17th, a witness named Mike, who wishes to remain anonymous,

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saw an unidentified object in the skies near his house.

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That's the very same night Patricia Davila saw the UFO over her house in Long Beach.

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According to his testimony, Mike's wife told him that military helicopters circled his house shortly after Mike sighted.

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A coincidence? I don't think so.

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What's over in that direction?

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Actually, Lake Matthews and March Air Force Base are direct line of sight where this was flying.

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And let's consider the possibility that this is a hoax.

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And somebody is simply flying a remote control helicopter that has lights strung around the sides.

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Maybe it's not 10, 12 miles away.

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Like you thought it's actually a lot closer, but because the object is smaller, it gives the impression of distance.

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Have you shown this video to anybody else?

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I did. To a colleague at work.

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How did that person react to seeing the video?

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He was blown away. He couldn't explain it. He was completely stunned.

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Did you ask him not to tell anybody?

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Uh, no.

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It's not just the sighting that sounds so incredible. It's what happened next that blows my mind.

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Several days later, my wife witnessed two large, black, wind-rotor helicopters circling our home.

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My wife was a fairy shaken up by it.

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So she knew instinctively that something was looking for something. They were directly above our home.

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So what you're saying is this, on the 16th is the first time you saw this object and you videotaped it.

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That's correct.

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The next day on the 17th of March, you actually tell someone at work.

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I did.

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And then that same night, you see this object for the second time, the same object. You videotape it again.

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Yes, for 30 minutes.

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And then two days later, on March 19th, your wife reports that there are two black, unmarked helicopters flying around your home,

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as though they're looking for something.

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Correct.

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Given Mike's employment with a DOD contractor and the fact that he brought these videos to work,

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does suggest a connection between the craft he witnessed and the unmarked helicopters seen shortly after.

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But, it wasn't just the appearance of these helicopters that points to a military connection.

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A month after I was laid off, their reasoning was that they were going in a different direction,

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which didn't make any sense to me because I was hired there under strict statement of what my duties were,

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and I was meeting all of those duties.

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When did you get the lay-off notice?

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I didn't get any notice.

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I came back from lunch and I was walked off the facility by armed guards.

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Did you feel it was somehow in relation to the mentioning of the object at work?

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I do.

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Did the video contribute to Mike's lay-off?

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It's possible, but it's also possible that tough economic times and budget cutbacks was the reason for his dismissal.

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This is close to an Air Force base.

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The Department of Defense might have had knowledge of this sighting and might have done something about it.

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I mean, to me, a lot of what's going on here screams military, military, military.

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In the Long Beach sighting, helicopters came from military bases, different agencies to scour the skies for this.

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If this were a military, why would this be over roughly a residential neighborhood or a lake?

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Why would military helicopters chase as if they're searching for a military test craft?

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Could this be too good to be true?

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The video looks great.

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A close-up video of a donut-shaped object.

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We all heard about the donut-shaped object that Harold Dahl saw over Moray Island in 1947.

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Could this be it?

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Could this be the smoking gun?

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For both the Long Beach and Corona sightings, I took coordinate and clinometer measurements to see if there was some sort of geographic connection between these two sightings.

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I made some calculations based on these readings, and given the location of Patricia's sighting in Long Beach and Mike's sighting in Corona, I don't think they saw the same craft.

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What I'm most interested in seeing is if these objects can be identified through image and video analysis.

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We're going to meet with Al Murphy of Analysis of Motion to see if he can identify the object in Patricia's photos and Mike's video.

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This is one photo that looks probably most interesting of the ones that I've seen.

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At least it has some sort of a shape.

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I've zoomed way in here to try and pick up like an outline.

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I've played with a little bit of image processing to try and pick up something in the background.

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But basically all I'm seeing is the lights.

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Now I understand that this is an eight second exposure, rather than just one second exposure.

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So we have what looks like probably pulsating lights over maybe one second per pulse.

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So Al, do you think that last cluster of four lights is the object?

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It's the brightest exposure at the end of the multiple exposure, and I think that that's the object.

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Does this strike you as a conventional aircraft? Would you be able to tell? Is this an airplane? Does this seem unusual to you at all?

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We don't have the red and the green lights.

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If it was a landing light, it would be on all the time. We would see a streak.

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I would say that from the shape of the lights, it doesn't look like a conventional aircraft.

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Are there any specifics about this craft that you can determine from these photographs?

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We had two witnesses estimate that it was a quarter mile away.

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Given that it would be a quarter of a mile away,

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let's say it's a quarter of a mile away from the aircraft,

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let's just say that it looks like 30 degrees. These lights could be 50 feet in diameter.

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Al thinks that these objects could be about 50 feet in diameter, but given the long exposure time,

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I think we could be looking at something much smaller, but just exaggerated because of the way these pictures were taken.

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Well, what if it's not one object? What if we're looking at four separate orbs that are traveling in formation?

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Four separate helicopters.

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Do you see anything in that final cluster of four that would suggest to you that it's a helicopter?

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No.

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We also investigated this case in Corona, California, in which a man videotaped this strange ring-like object.

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We think it's a UFO in some of the most exciting video footage we've seen yet, and we'd like to know your opinion on it.

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The first image that we have here is basically the largest indication of what it is throughout the whole video.

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It's zoomed in quite a bit. The object seems to have kind of a donut shape to it,

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and with the local background and the image processing, I can kind of recover that shape.

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Can you tell from looking at this if this is a solid ring of light or these separate lights in kind of a circle formation?

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If I look at this image, it looks to me like there's a ring of separate lights.

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I think Al's analysis is starting to confirm that this object has a much more conventional explanation.

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What I see is that it's entirely possible that this is a remote-operated vehicle.

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That would also explain its ability to make sharp, fast turns.

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Al thinks this craft could be a remote-controlled vehicle,

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and reminds me of a similar man-made craft developed in 2008, less than 30 miles away.

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When we compare the photos of this vehicle to Mike's footage,

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I think it's possible he videotaped one of these remote-controlled UFOs.

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Although Mike's video might not be a true UFO,

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we have another report of a similar military response on the same night.

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Hey, Trevor, how are you?

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Oh, doing alright.

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Trevor Louder is a software developer and amateur astronomer that's lived in the Lake Havasu City, Arizona.

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From more than 25 years, he frequently sees military aircraft in the area,

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including B-2 bombers, military jets, and refueling aircraft,

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so he is well-versed in what the military is flying.

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And he said that what he saw that day, which just happens to be within 24 hours of the sightings in Corona and Long Beach,

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is nothing like he's ever seen before.

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The event took place pretty much every day,

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the event took place pretty much right along the horizon here.

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It was about 7 o'clock at night, and what I saw was a boomerang-shaped craft.

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I could make it out by the fact that it was blocking the starlight out as it was traveling against the night sky.

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I could see very clearly orange or amber orbs attached to the bulk of the body,

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and from this vantage point, I could see one extended wing of some sort.

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It had an additional light on the tip of it.

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When the craft came overhead, and I was able to actually make out a second portion of it,

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it was actually the bulk of the body with two wings.

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It was anywhere between 3 and 400 feet wide.

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And when it made this turn, did it bank or did it make a sharp turn?

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It seemed to make a sharp turn.

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The lights stayed horizontal in proportion, whereas a normal craft would sort of tilt this way.

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The craft didn't do that at all.

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It maintained its horizontal latitude and just made the turn and started coming straight back towards it.

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What about the speed? Did it slow down to make the turn or to make it at the same speed?

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The speed was definitely consistent.

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What about the jets? You said it was chased by jets?

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It was chased by fighter jets.

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Given the strobe pattern, I could tell that there was a minimum of four.

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What originally brought this to my attention was the sound of the afterburners on the jets.

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Just given that engine sound, I could tell that they were trying to catch up to it.

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Trevor, did it look like this object was heading in a specific direction?

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I could tell that the craft was heading in a northern direction,

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and it was definitely headed towards Needles, California.

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What's interesting about Trevor's description is that the craft turned and headed back toward Needles, California.

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That's the site of the May 2008 crash, which was the subject of our investigation last year.

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Trevor, we're excited. Show us what you got.

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Absolutely.

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We're investigating multiple UFO sightings that took place on March 17th and March 18th in 2009.

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And each sighting was followed by what seems to be the military's first response to a UFO presence.

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Are they intercepting the objects? Engaging the objects.

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We don't know, but we're about to view Trevor Louder's video.

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Maybe that's going to help us figure this out.

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What you can see here is the western horizon.

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Traveling south, what really stood out to me were these amber orbs that were attached to it.

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They seemed to be in sort of an oval shape, and there seemed to be several of them attached to the bulk of the craft.

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Coming into focus here in just a moment, we're going to see a solitary light on the end of the object, and you're able to kind of make out a wing.

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Now, when this flew overhead, I was able to make out a second wing.

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So what we're looking at here is a fuselage wing, and then what you don't see is that other wing tip.

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Trevor's testimony is very interesting, and if his estimation of the size of this object is correct, he may be on to something.

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But the video is very shaky, so it's hard to get a reference point to determine just how large this object really is.

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So what is it about this craft that strikes you as being unconventional, possibly extraterrestrial?

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It's sheer size. The sheer size of it. I can tell that it was at least three or four hundred feet long, and I can't think of a single craft that is that large that will travel through the sky at seven or eight hundred miles an hour.

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A 747 jet has a wingspan of a hundred and ninety-five feet, and a B2 stealth bomber has a wingspan of a hundred and seventy-five feet.

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If Trevor's estimations of this object are correct, then we are talking about a gigantic aircraft.

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Here we can see the fighter jets. There's four to six jets there scrambling behind the craft.

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I see it. And about what distance would you say they were from the craft?

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I would have to say they were anywhere between a mile to two miles behind it, trying to catch up to it.

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As I look at this, one of the things that I'm thinking is, you want to say this is a military weapon and they're escorting it, but the fact that they've got their afterburners on really bothers me.

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Right.

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Because they wouldn't be escorting with afterburners.

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Bill is saying that because these jets are using their afterburners, this means that they are chasing the object.

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But this could very well mean that they are using the afterburners to simply catch up.

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Have you ever seen a B2 bomber and could this simply have been that?

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I have seen several B2 bombers in the area. Again, we are between a couple of different military establishments here.

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I frequently see bombers, fighters, commercial aircraft flying through the area, and this doesn't compare. It's not even close.

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How so? In terms of size?

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Oh, absolutely. Size, the amber, light arrangement, the orbs that are attached to this thing each represent nearly the size of a standard aircraft.

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You've seen this thing multiple times. You have video, you've kept notes, you've taken records. What do you think this craft was?

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Honestly, Kevin, I have no idea what this object could be.

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After talking to Trevor, it's clear that he saw an object followed by a military first response.

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We don't know if that's a sign of aggression or support.

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Lay them out.

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We started with patricius sighting in Long Beach. Now that object was drifting and hovering, heading in a general southern direction towards the naval weapons station at Seal Beach.

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What we have going on here in Lake Havasu, that is very interesting. We have military jets possibly chasing a UFO.

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Heading at first south, hangs a quick 30 degree turn, heads back toward needles.

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I think we might be looking too closely for a connection. It's also possible that these are just isolated incidents.

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And it's just a coincidence that happened around the same date.

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Even if they are, to me, it's the military presence. Military helicopters, military jets in an attack formation.

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That's the connection we can make between these cases. The military is involved in one way or another.

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Well, since Trevor said this thing did make a hard turn, a hard pivot toward needles, I think we should head to needles and investigate what kind of UFO incidents are going on in needles.

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We investigated a UFO crash in needles last year and I think there might be some connection.

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We're going to talk to Frank Kostigan at KTOX Radio in needles and see if he's received any phone calls from my witnesses that could help us kind of put together a picture of what might be going on.

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Here we are, Frank.

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Good to have you back.

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Thank you, Frank. It's really great that we're back and I want to thank you for inviting us to needles and talking to us.

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Well, we had so much information. Back in May of 2008, we had an object crash here off the Colorado River.

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This area is very remote, although there's five or six military installations like 50 to 100 miles in each direction.

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We never saw military aircraft and all of a sudden we're inundated with it.

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Now, did that military presence abate or did it continue and pick up?

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Well, the presence on the ground continued for like three or four months. It still comes through.

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And the thing of it is you think about this thing that crashed here in needles and all the military presence all started with that object that flew, in our opinion, from Area 51 and I feel that it just fell in the wrong place.

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Are people keeping themselves or is it talk of the town?

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It's the talk of the town. If I go into a restaurant, people recognize me from the station.

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Immediately, the conversation turns to UFOs and what the military is doing and why these people are being left out of the loop.

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Why are they endangered and the government's doing nothing to protect them?

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We're getting calls reporting different objects in the sky, glowing oval objects, glowing cigar shaped objects, triangles, triangle lights.

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So basically we should be talking to witnesses now.

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You need to talk to witnesses.

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Well, guys, let's go.

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We're hearing that Frank is being inundated with phone calls about heightened UFO activity and an increased military presence here in the area ever since the crash in 2008.

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That leaves us with the question, what is the relationship between the military and these UFOs?

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Is the military actually developing these UFOs and they're some sort of experimental top secret black ops craft?

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Or do these UFOs actually have extraterrestrial origins?

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We've seen light anomalies, objects in the sky that I don't know what to make of them.

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Between 7 and 8 o'clock every night, there'd be multiple helicopters come very low over our house every night.

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We're investigating the military's first response to UFO activity.

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It's clear to us, after talking to Frank Costigan at KTOX Radio, that the residents of Needles, California, who've seen these objects, can help us put the pieces together.

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So we're meeting with the Riley family, Bob, Charlotte and Christine, who've got some intriguing stories to tell us.

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In May of last year, we've had every day and into the night, we have military going over our home.

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Somewhere between 7 and 8 o'clock every night, there'd be multiple helicopters come very low over our house heading north to south every night.

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Bob Riley runs Riley Automotive in Bullhead City, Arizona, just outside the Needles, California area.

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Local residents, including the Riley's, see military aircraft all the time.

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But something has drastically changed since our first visit here in 2008.

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Now what are they looking for here? You say they're coming over for what reason, what purpose?

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We've seen light anomalies, objects in the sky that I don't know what to make of them, but I'm tying the two together.

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What about you, Christine? What kind of military activity have you seen?

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I see a lot of the double-blade helicopters at night, minimum five out of seven nights a week.

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We've also heard from Frank Costigan that a lot of people are talking about strange sightings, strange things in the area. Can you describe some?

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I'm coming home from my shop in Bullhead, coming south on 95. It's probably January of this year.

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It's about seven in the evening, just twilight. I see a white object probably running about equal with the 40 down by Needles.

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Was there any proximity and time between the appearance of the helicopters and some of the objects you saw in the sky?

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Well, you know, since they're here every night, every day, I would say there's definitely some kind of connection.

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What I don't understand is, you know, we're in a small town. We've got the desert here and the desert here.

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I don't understand why they're coming right over the town. You know, 10 miles either way and no one would know what they're doing.

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To me, the Riley's testimony, what they saw is another example of the military's first response to the presence of UFOs.

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But, exactly what that link is, still remains a mystery.

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I actually started talking to you guys and that very same night, I went to get the camera and I thought, I'll get some pictures tonight and this will help out.

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No more helicopters came over the house.

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They didn't show up in the morning. They didn't show up at night. This has been going on two weeks now. Not a single sighting.

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I mean, it could still just be a coincidence, right?

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We didn't have two days in a row that they didn't come over. That's a little more than a coincidence for me.

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So, not only have the helicopters stopped flying over the area, but you stopped seeing UFOs in the sky as well.

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Exactly.

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Although we haven't proven a definite link between the presence of UFOs and a military's first response, our most compelling proof yet may still be Trevor Louders' video.

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It showed fighter jets in the sky, we think. It showed this boomerang-shaped object making its turn.

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But the truth is in the analysis.

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So, we're taking the video back to Los Angeles, for an analysis, and let's see what the analysis turns up on Trevor Louders' video.

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We have three lights here in kind of a triangular shape.

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There's some maybe dimmer lights in the center.

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It's like rows of lights, actually.

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One of them has kind of a bluish tint to it.

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Does that resemble an aircraft light that you're familiar with?

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Nothing specific that I'm familiar with.

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Can you decisively say whether this object in the sky, this UFO, is boomerang or triangular-shaped?

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To me, definitively, from this one frame, it looks like it's boomerang-shaped.

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Beyond that, I can't really make an opinion.

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Although this video is shot at night, and it is a bit shaky, we do have the presence of fighter jets.

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The footage and witness report is similar to what was seen in the Belgian flap of 1990,

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and the boomerang seen by many during the Phoenix lightsightings of 1997.

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Both cases involve the apparent pursuit by military aircraft.

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What we need to do is talk to a military expert and determine what kind of formation this was.

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Is this an attack formation? Are they pursuing, engaging, or is this just an escort formation?

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We do have Trevor's drawing of the formation of the jets and the object shape itself,

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so at least we have some kind of graphic description we can give.

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If we're going to get anything from Trevor's sighting, it's going to come from a military expert.

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So we're going to bring in George Merritt, who is a former military and civilian test pilot.

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This is four times the size of a stealth bomber. This is really, really huge.

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We're investigating the military response to a UFO presence.

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The case that's intrigued us the most is a sighting that took place in Lake Havasu City, Arizona,

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where a huge boomerang shaped object 400 feet across was chased by Air Force fighter jets.

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We're meeting with retired Air Force fighter pilot George Merritt to ascertain what the intent might have been of these Air Force jets.

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Here's the situation, George. We need your expertise to help us figure something out.

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George Merritt has flown some of our nation's most advanced and top secret military aircraft.

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The eyewitness described a craft that is boomerang shaped and about 400 feet wide.

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That is absolutely huge. This is four times the size of a stealth bomber.

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It's up there even bigger than Howard Hughes' flying boat, the Spruce Goose.

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So this would be the largest thing in the air.

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That ever known to American aviation or even foreign country.

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I think it's obvious that a craft of this size would attract a lot of attention.

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And according to Trevor's testimony, the majority of the attention came from the military.

404
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He says he saw two sets of fighter jets that appear to be scrambled on full afterburner,

405
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trying to catch up to this craft and unable to do so.

406
00:39:57,666 --> 00:40:01,667
Well, first show me what type of formation was seen.

407
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This would be the formation that the witness saw.

408
00:40:07,667 --> 00:40:09,667
Now what does this formation mean?

409
00:40:10,667 --> 00:40:14,668
Well, practically all formations will have a wingman.

410
00:40:14,668 --> 00:40:16,668
It's for mutual support.

411
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You know, your primary direction that a fighter pilot would like coming up on an unknown is from the tail.

412
00:40:23,669 --> 00:40:29,669
Because you're more of a, you can shoot it down without it shooting you down.

413
00:40:30,669 --> 00:40:39,670
What George is telling us really validates the hypothesis that these jets are engaging this UFO in an attack formation

414
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with a lead fighter and a wingman.

415
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:52,671
That we can prove. What we can't prove is how a craft this large can make such an unconventional maneuver without banking.

416
00:40:53,671 --> 00:40:58,672
If he can make a turn without banking, then he's not aerodynamic as we think of it.

417
00:40:58,672 --> 00:41:02,672
Any fighter that was after him is an aerodynamic craft.

418
00:41:02,672 --> 00:41:04,672
He's going to be pulling Gs when he turns.

419
00:41:04,672 --> 00:41:11,673
He's going to be outside of the visual contact with that aircraft for some period of time.

420
00:41:11,673 --> 00:41:14,673
So he's at a disadvantage during the turn.

421
00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:20,674
Obviously if you can turn like this versus a bank, you have a real advantage.

422
00:41:21,674 --> 00:41:26,674
When we look at the aerodynamics of conventional aircraft, they have to bank in order to make a turn.

423
00:41:27,674 --> 00:41:35,675
If this UFO is being chased by fighter jets and made a turn without banking, then these jets would overshoot the UFO and lose their visual on the object.

424
00:41:38,675 --> 00:41:48,676
If they were close enough to see the size of this and the speed of this vehicle and the fact that it made a turn without banking, it's in a different league.

425
00:41:48,676 --> 00:41:59,677
What George is reinforcing for me is that the military's first response to the presence of the UFO is aggression.

426
00:42:00,677 --> 00:42:03,678
Why else would these jets be in an attack formation?

427
00:42:07,678 --> 00:42:17,679
There's no doubt in my mind that there are unidentified craft that appear in our skies and the military have to be scrambled to engage them.

428
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:21,679
But for sure something very unusual happened here at Long Beach.

429
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:28,680
We have two eyewitnesses who reported something very unusual and military activity that was absolutely abnormal.

430
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On top of that we spoke with one of the best video analysts on the west coast who says that the object that's in the photograph is absolutely not conventional.

431
00:42:36,681 --> 00:42:40,681
So it's quite possible we're dealing with a genuine UFO incident of some sort here.

432
00:42:41,681 --> 00:42:48,682
There were possible UFO sightings over Long Beach, Lake Havasu and Needles.

433
00:42:49,682 --> 00:42:55,682
But what can be confirmed is that in all of these sightings there was a military response.

434
00:42:56,682 --> 00:42:58,683
What facts do we have here?

435
00:42:58,683 --> 00:43:03,683
We have some photographs. We have two videos, one of which is more than likely a hoax.

436
00:43:03,683 --> 00:43:08,684
Now, if Trevor's testimony is true, he did not overestimate the size of this craft.

437
00:43:08,684 --> 00:43:17,684
And if what George told us is accurate, which I believe it is, he is an expert, then something bizarre happened in Lake Havasu that I can't explain.

438
00:43:18,684 --> 00:43:24,685
I think a lot of these UFO sightings and the subsequent arrival of military aircraft can be explained as a coincidence.

439
00:43:25,685 --> 00:43:29,685
But the sighting in Lake Havasu City, Arizona simply cannot be explained.

440
00:43:29,685 --> 00:43:34,686
There's no rhyme or reason why an attack formation would be pursuing this UFO.

441
00:43:35,686 --> 00:43:41,687
Perhaps our government is still reacting to intrusions over our airspace.

442
00:43:41,687 --> 00:43:45,687
Intrusions, intercepts with no resolution.

443
00:43:45,687 --> 00:43:48,687
The military doesn't know what it is.

444
00:43:48,687 --> 00:43:53,688
We could be in a cold war with the UFOs.

445
00:43:56,688 --> 00:44:01,688
The cases we just investigated all took place in 2009.

446
00:44:01,688 --> 00:44:10,689
And to me what they indicate is a continued stance of aggression toward the presence of these unidentified objects.

447
00:44:10,689 --> 00:44:17,690
The bottom line, they don't know what these objects are, but the UFOs are definitely considered a threat.